Ilse Crawford studio visit

ILSE CRAWFORD

STUDIO VISIT

INTERVIEW


“We spend a lot of time understanding how people use space – we listen a lot, we watch a lot,” says British designer Ilse Crawford, describing how she and her team approach interiors. To succeed it’s important to integrate essential truths, she argues. “Often it’s very basic – sometimes it’s just about framing the blindingly obvious, the very simple things we need. For example, our instinct for beauty. And the fact that we are happy together but we also need a corner to disappear into. Or that we all like to hang out in the kitchen.” 

Studioilse – which Crawford set up in 2003 – has, among its many renowned projects, recently completed the interiors for two additional buildings of the boutique hotel Ett Hem in Stockholm (the original, also designed by Studioilse, opened in 2012). Although the hotel has now doubled in size, adding another 10 rooms and three residential apartments, the team has worked hard to make it remain “small”. 

“How have we got so obsessed by the idea that to be scalable all you have to do is get bigger?” asks Crawford. “It’s not necessarily true – and that is what’s been interesting here. Ideally being scalable is keeping the essence of the brand while allowing for change. We kept the individual scale and character of each house while evolving and adding meaningful functions. When Jeanette [Mix, founder of Ett Hem] told people that she wanted to grow the hotel, a lot of people panicked and worried it would lose its special feeling. Understandably. We met one guy who was like, ‘You should just copy paste what you’ve got.’ But for me that was not the answer. In order to grow it didn’t have to be ‘the same but bigger’, it could be a sibling – simply the house next door.”

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Christopher Hunt

We meet with Crawford at her Neckinger Mills studio – a Grade II-listed former tannery on Abbey Street in Bermondsey, south London. Crawford and her husband Oscar Peña have lived in the building since 2018 and the studio has been here since 2012. In 2021 Studioilse moved in to one of the spaces that was formerly a fine arts restoration studio with a view to turning it into a workshop, a place where physicality is first and foremost. Here the team can work together and lay out large-scale material samples, often with their clients, so they can touch and feel the materiality of a project, and understand the final result, rather than prioritising screens. These are here of course – but screen work can also be done from home. A social kitchen in the middle of the space as well as a big table used as a shared desk create the feeling of a communal working space rather than a traditional office. “It’s really important that the atmosphere of a studio is also one that makes you aware that you are designing a new reality,” says Crawford, adding that what she finds fascinating about designing the interiors of buildings is designing them around people’s behaviour, whilst making sure that they are also beautiful. “You’re not just doing the aesthetics – although obviously that is really important and one of our tools; after all, it’s the language we work with – you are also using furniture to stand in for people; you are understanding people’s needs and activities, and then everything you do is to support that.”

TNE: Studioilse really set a new way of designing spaces, the way spaces feel and how you experience them…

IC: There’s a reason why we are bespoke. We are very interested in typologies and archetypes and not throwing away old knowledge. We often work with old buildings where we build on what is there, take the roots and then develop and evolve them for today with appropriate materials. We look at how to animate and use those spaces in ways that are psychologically uplifting, as well as practically solid. To get there it’s important to integrate essential truths. Often it’s very basic – sometimes it’s just about framing the blindingly obvious, the very simple things we need. For example, the fact that we are happy together but we also need a corner to disappear into. The fact that hotel breakfasts don’t need to be lavish to be special – more important is the feeling that someone cares. Very simple principles. Christopher Alexander’s book A Pattern Language is one of my favourites. It’s a wonderful book. I love the way he and his team observe and approach the built environment at all scales, identifying things that are always true, or that are sometimes true – for example, interesting but not necessarily proven – and those that are interesting but don’t work in practice. That’s very much our approach to buildings – such as the principle of the kitchen at the original Ett Hem. It was quite out there not having a designated restaurant – but the building didn’t allow it space-wise, so we had to be ingenious with tight parameters. It would just be ‘The Kitchen’ and therefore inform the atmosphere in the rest of the place.

It was an interesting discussion with Jeanette because we really felt strongly that the kitchen should be a place where you could be part of the cooking experience. And she was like, “Hmm, yeah okay,” which was pretty courageous given the level she wanted Ett Hem to be. And of course the regulations are not on your side and we had to work around that, but nonetheless the principle and the feeling is that you’re there in amongst the cooks and that you are part of it. That openness was really critical to us. However, it has to be embedded in the design from the beginning. It’s not an add on. When we were first developing the design some people said, “Oh that will never work, these kind of people would never sit round a kitchen table.” But without a kitchen there is no home, and it is called Ett Hem [Swedish for ‘a home’] after all. Anyway, Jeanette supported what we were doing and the rest is history. Every evening the kitchen table is the first to go. In all our projects we really work on trying to understand what makes spaces feel alive and communicate care. We talk about the cool head and the warm heart. How to support life and work as well as create beautiful spaces for everyone. And that approach is completely transferable. We have applied the same principles to the work we did with Refettorio Felix and the Anna Freud Centre, the mental health charity for children and families, as to Ett Hem and the Cathay Pacific lounges. People are people.

The Bermondsey studio also works as a materials library

TNE: Where did you get that sense of designing for humans? Was the home always important to you when growing up?

IC: Yes. But the home is important to every child because it’s your world. It’s a part of growing up. There was a film, Toto the Hero, that looks at growing up and how your borders expand. How initially it’s a room and then it’s another room and then it’s the front door and eventually it’s the world. My mum was pretty arty – she instilled in us the sense that we could make our urroundings. And that they mattered. There was always the risk that supper was purple because one of us hadn’t washed the saucepan properly after dyeing something. But where things got rocky was when she got very ill and eventually died when I was 17. As a result, our home was total mayhem. But family life – we were a big family – was always within the borders of that house. There are some funny pictures of me and my punk sisters all sitting around the kitchen table. It held us together. And still when I talk to them they remember that. That kind of awkward hanging out with my younger stroppy sisters and me muddling along cooking one pot meals that were produced far too late. But we managed. I would say our home became even more important – our home became our parent in a way, because of the absence of our mum, and it did rather well at that. To be homeless must be one of the worst states of being. There is a John Berger quote about how “without a home everything is fragmentation”. It is a base that frames our lives, and is at the heart of the real.


“It’s really important that the atmosphere of a studio is also one that makes you aware that you are designing a new reality. You’re not just doing the aesthetics – although it’s the language we work with – you are also understanding people’s needs and activities.”

TNE: We are going from one crisis to the other, from the pandemic to a host of other uncertainties. How do you think these things are going to affect our spaces and lives going forward?

IC: The pandemic is behind us now. But there are other big challenges in front of us. Climate, war, supply chains, politically the swing to the extreme right in many countries, the rising cost of living. Economically it’s going to be a tough few years for a lot of people. In the UK for example, mortgage payments have gone up 60 percent in the last year. And prices have gone up. So when many people are looking at furniture they will be testing things and thinking it through thoroughly. There’s a realisation that spaces need to work harder. For multi-use, working from home, etc.

Of course there’s the bigger discussion of how our industry deals with the challenges of climate change. In general there is a growing rejection of throwaway culture and a demand for greater transparency around how things are produced. And we are holding companies accountable. Now when people are looking at furniture, for example, they will be asking more questions about where things come from, how they are produced and what they are made of. And they will be more rigorous about their needs. We are also buying more vintage. And there is a growing interest in repairing and customising existing stuff. It is important that the furniture industry recognises the importance of this and integrates it in the business model.

Designers are used to confronting change and dealing with what ifs, realising better versions of the future. I think it’s too soon to say how it is going to fall, but I am hopeful because I meet quite a lot of people who are in positions to change things, and they are stepping up. We are working with a client in Amsterdam who is aiming to be part of a new era of hotels. It will take BREEAM Outstanding and Green Globe standards as its starting point in construction as well as in operations, such as reducing waste and pollution. It’s a different way of looking at construction, and Amsterdam is leading the charge there in many ways with its aim to be the first circular city in the world. For example, by 2030 they aim to halve the use of new raw materials. Of course, the systems aren’t quite there yet, but they will be. Government has to take the lead.

TNE: Are you fearful of the future?

IC: There’s no point in being negative. But it is definitely time for a rethink on lots of levels, not just climate change. Never let a good crisis go to waste. So let’s see. And it’s our our job as designers to be part of making new realities. To participate and facilitate alongside clients, manufacturers, contractors, tech, academia, NGOs. These days design is a team sport. There’s a fantastic David Graeber quote I refer to often, which is: “The ultimate hidden truth of the world is that it is something we make and could just as easily make differently.”

There are a lot of people doing really interesting stuff around climate change right now, although there’s obviously not much time to make a difference. But it seems to me that there’s a general awakening. For 20 years I was in the lucky position of teaching – as a head of department at the Design Academy Eindhoven in the Netherlands . Being engaged with the generations that will make the future is important and stimulating. If I think about the people who have graduated I feel very hopeful – they are inspiring people with progressive and resourceful ways of thinking, practical idealists, many of them working with materials and the systems around them with a view to making them more sustainable, humanly and environmentally. It’s interesting to do projects that have a possibility of creating new systems, especially with those extraction industries. For example, Tom van Soest who launched StoneCycling 10 years ago, which developed the machinery to create new materials with 100 percent construction waste – notably Waste Based Bricks, which are now available at scale and are used by the construction industry for large projects worldwide. They have upcycled more than two million kilograms of waste to date. He now has a design studio focused on waste and design. And then there is Buro Belén, who use aesthetics to entice people to love materials that are ethical, healthy and holistic. Their work is incredibly beautiful. They did amazing bio textiles for the Dutch Pavilion at the World Expo 2020. The fact that these people are from a generation that can communicate digitally really well doesn’t hurt.

We’re also in an era where we are over the need for new, new, new. If you are trying to deal with the challenges that we have in front of us, we don’t necessarily always need new technologies. Why would you start from scratch every time? Having the courage to use the best ideas is what is important right now. We shouldn’t be frightened of the blindingly obvious. Or of using beauty to create change. And why not look to history, and to other parts of the world for sustainable ideas? It’s too early to say what’s going to happen, but without a doubt things will change. Hopefully we will all become more resourceful, more curious and more caring. For sure we have to look at everything we do differently.


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